Wow. I'm astonished by this incredibly insightful interview. Thank you, Kristin, for posting this. You both explore so many levels of this topic that it covers a wide spectrum. My one disagreement would be Gopi's comment on waking up. While the point he makes is relevant, I feel he misses the mark. Yet I had to chuckle at his closing remarks, which sounded a lot like waking up, to me.
Earlier in the interview, he stated: ‘Whatever we have not resolved as issues in our own selves suddenly becomes a global data point and ends up programing the machines to reflect back to us what we did not want to deal with.' This sounds like a call to wake up as well. Dealing with our unresolved issues is one of the definitions of waking up.
But I feel the greater issue here is waking up to the deceptions we have endured the past three years. Which in turn triggers a waking up to the deceptions retroactively. The dominoes start to fall backwards, the veil gets drawn and we see our current affairs in an entirely new light. The social media parlance of being 'red-pilled' (as in The Matrix) I feel is an accurate metaphor. I personally have been red-pilled countless times over the past three years to the point where my entire worldview and historical view have shifted drastically. Even my own self reference and identity has changed, much like Neo. I would call this waking up.
As for the Great Awakening, which I think Gopi was referring to in his comment, that is open to interpretation. But when enough people have individually woken up to the deceptions wrought upon them it can, hopefully will, reach critical mass and a push back will gain much more traction.
Your interview I would deem a prime example of material by which to 'wake up'.
Thanks for sharing. I think many people have had a similar journey to yours over the last few years. There are different kinds of awareness that can be developed, of course. I think Gopi's point is simply that real self development takes work, so we should be aware that something as simple as sharing a meme doesn't necessarily result in an awakening. And I would add that there's a tendency in the dissident community to share memes more than attend to our own attention with regards to information and technology. it's a complicated and multi-faceted topic for sure. I appreciate your feedback.
If only a meme would do it... think of all the work it would save. Maybe we could farm our awakening to AI. Now that would be interesting! I'm sure its architects are dreaming some idea of selling to us this way.
Kristin, thank you for directing me to this post. I just finished reading it, and as I got to the bottom I clearly saw echoes to my new blog - a title I actually came up with a year ago but kept putting off actually fleshing out my thoughts to begin posting articles. I DO see this as ,,,Wrestling with Truth!
I will digest my notes & add post some comments on my Substack, with a link back to this article. There is a LOT of good in here, and some things I might take issue with or further elaborate upon.
Kristin, thank you for directing me to this post. I just finished reading it, and as I got to the bottom I clearly saw echoes to my new blog - a title I actually came up with a year ago but kept putting off actually fleshing out my thoughts to begin posting articles. I DO see this as ,,,Wrestling with Truth!
I will digest my notes & add post some comments on my Substack, with a link back to this article. There is a LOT of good in here, and some things I might take issue with or further elaborate upon.
I scanned the piece. I found the language rather clunky, which is why I didn't read it. I note your comment. There is more agreement than disagreement and it is a complex subject. We need to discuss it more; and gain clarity on something that is supposedly going to change the world, yet again. Why do we give engineers that power? Rhetorical question.
There is a basic flaw in this whole discussion: it doesn't define the difference between human thought and AI 'intelligence'. They are not synonymous ...we don't even understand our own thinking and computers cannot 'think' at all. They can only follow rules and can only access memory banks; they are not creative if by that you mean creating new ideas and new ways of thinking about the world. I've known plenty of computer nerds who told me that computers are stupid. I agree that being unconscious of how our minds work is a real problem. But the deeper issue is our idiotic admiration for machines...they are not Gods at all. Unless we treat them as such.
Hi Monika, thanks for your comment. Perhaps we could have gone deeper into the nature of human thinking, but the thesis of Gopi's contributions are very much in line with what you are saying. Did you read the piece, or just the title?
Actually he is quite clear on this point, there IS NO such thing as AI! There are simply involved datasets examined, patterns identified, and programming is altered. This is human simply automating the process of assimilating massive amounts of data. There is no "thinking" going on in the silicon, only in the squash (an old term I love from med school used by some to refer to the brain, HUMAN brain).
Wow. I'm astonished by this incredibly insightful interview. Thank you, Kristin, for posting this. You both explore so many levels of this topic that it covers a wide spectrum. My one disagreement would be Gopi's comment on waking up. While the point he makes is relevant, I feel he misses the mark. Yet I had to chuckle at his closing remarks, which sounded a lot like waking up, to me.
Earlier in the interview, he stated: ‘Whatever we have not resolved as issues in our own selves suddenly becomes a global data point and ends up programing the machines to reflect back to us what we did not want to deal with.' This sounds like a call to wake up as well. Dealing with our unresolved issues is one of the definitions of waking up.
But I feel the greater issue here is waking up to the deceptions we have endured the past three years. Which in turn triggers a waking up to the deceptions retroactively. The dominoes start to fall backwards, the veil gets drawn and we see our current affairs in an entirely new light. The social media parlance of being 'red-pilled' (as in The Matrix) I feel is an accurate metaphor. I personally have been red-pilled countless times over the past three years to the point where my entire worldview and historical view have shifted drastically. Even my own self reference and identity has changed, much like Neo. I would call this waking up.
As for the Great Awakening, which I think Gopi was referring to in his comment, that is open to interpretation. But when enough people have individually woken up to the deceptions wrought upon them it can, hopefully will, reach critical mass and a push back will gain much more traction.
Your interview I would deem a prime example of material by which to 'wake up'.
Thanks for sharing. I think many people have had a similar journey to yours over the last few years. There are different kinds of awareness that can be developed, of course. I think Gopi's point is simply that real self development takes work, so we should be aware that something as simple as sharing a meme doesn't necessarily result in an awakening. And I would add that there's a tendency in the dissident community to share memes more than attend to our own attention with regards to information and technology. it's a complicated and multi-faceted topic for sure. I appreciate your feedback.
If only a meme would do it... think of all the work it would save. Maybe we could farm our awakening to AI. Now that would be interesting! I'm sure its architects are dreaming some idea of selling to us this way.
Kristin, thank you for directing me to this post. I just finished reading it, and as I got to the bottom I clearly saw echoes to my new blog - a title I actually came up with a year ago but kept putting off actually fleshing out my thoughts to begin posting articles. I DO see this as ,,,Wrestling with Truth!
I will digest my notes & add post some comments on my Substack, with a link back to this article. There is a LOT of good in here, and some things I might take issue with or further elaborate upon.
Kristin, thank you for directing me to this post. I just finished reading it, and as I got to the bottom I clearly saw echoes to my new blog - a title I actually came up with a year ago but kept putting off actually fleshing out my thoughts to begin posting articles. I DO see this as ,,,Wrestling with Truth!
I will digest my notes & add post some comments on my Substack, with a link back to this article. There is a LOT of good in here, and some things I might take issue with or further elaborate upon.
I scanned the piece. I found the language rather clunky, which is why I didn't read it. I note your comment. There is more agreement than disagreement and it is a complex subject. We need to discuss it more; and gain clarity on something that is supposedly going to change the world, yet again. Why do we give engineers that power? Rhetorical question.
There is a basic flaw in this whole discussion: it doesn't define the difference between human thought and AI 'intelligence'. They are not synonymous ...we don't even understand our own thinking and computers cannot 'think' at all. They can only follow rules and can only access memory banks; they are not creative if by that you mean creating new ideas and new ways of thinking about the world. I've known plenty of computer nerds who told me that computers are stupid. I agree that being unconscious of how our minds work is a real problem. But the deeper issue is our idiotic admiration for machines...they are not Gods at all. Unless we treat them as such.
Hi Monika, thanks for your comment. Perhaps we could have gone deeper into the nature of human thinking, but the thesis of Gopi's contributions are very much in line with what you are saying. Did you read the piece, or just the title?
Actually he is quite clear on this point, there IS NO such thing as AI! There are simply involved datasets examined, patterns identified, and programming is altered. This is human simply automating the process of assimilating massive amounts of data. There is no "thinking" going on in the silicon, only in the squash (an old term I love from med school used by some to refer to the brain, HUMAN brain).